Wednesday, April 28, 2010

Women In The Church

"...women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good looks. Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence." -1 Timothy 2:9-12.

The date is recorded as being about A.D. 64. Timothy was a young pastor leading the church at Ephesus (1 Timothy 1:3). Ephesus was called the Loveless Church (Rev. 2:1-7). The church had a Commendation: rejecting evil, perseveres, has patience. Criticism: Love for Christ no longer fervent. Instruction: Do the works you did at first. Promise: The tree of life. But, Paul is documented as the author of 1Timothy, 2 Timothy, and Titus.

I have been asked my opinion on the following scripture: 1 Timothy 2:11-12. After reading this scripture, my first impression is that women are to honor (respect) the man, because God placed the man in leadership of the woman. And by respecting him she should not dress inappropriate, or interrupt him when he is speaking. When more than one person is trying to talk at the same time, which one is listening? However, the serpent interposed God’s divine order, and caused a different set of circumstances to occur. I have devoted a lot of attention to this topic in my book. The controversy surrounding these events motivated me to learn the reasons as to why. But, of course we already know the main reason why. Whenever there is controversy, we can be certain that Satan is in its midst (central, center, focus, inter-medium, interposition, insinuation, throw in a wedge, infiltrate, a go-between, or get between)!

(v.11) Let a woman LEARN in silence...

Thought: If one is not listening, one cannot learn anything.

(v. 12) ...I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority OVER a man

Thought: The woman is not to lead, or direct a man with authority. The man has authority over the woman, and Almighty God’s has complete Authority over both the man, and the woman.


Paul was also saying that Christian women should dress with modesty. However, He was not preaching against nice clothes, or jewelry. The main idea was for women to not be like women of the world, whose total emphasis is on the exterior. {We all know how God looks at what's in a person's heart instead.}

But the Lord said to Samuel, "Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart." -1 Samuel 16:7.

Also, I believe that this scripture is a good example of a previous post that I wrote about regarding how the true meaning of some scriptures have a tendency to be lost during several translations and revisions, in order to simplify the Word of God. But, God’s word can never be altered. Because, He has already told us that His thoughts are not our thoughts. (Isaiah 55:8-9). And, I have read a lot of vast controversy concerning why some people do not believe the Holy Bible to be the true Word of God, simply because of this very reason: the wording in some scriptures has been altered. And, even the disciples made comments about strange doctrines being created.

However, this is what I have read in other biblical versions/sources:

NKJV: Let a woman learn… I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.

CEV: …and they should learn by being quiet and paying attention. They should be silent and not be allowed to teach or to tell men what to do.

KJV: Let the woman learn in silence… But I suffer not a women to teach, nor usurp authority over a men, but to be in silence.

GW: A woman must learn in silence, in keeping with her position. I don’t allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. Instead, she should be quiet. (God’s Word)

GOD’S WORD is a copyrighted work of God’s Word to the Nations Bible Society. Quotations are used by permission.

NIV: A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.

TNIV: A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

Jewish: Interesting and totally different version. But, need permission from publisher to post. So, perhaps if you already have a Complete Jewish Bible, you can review its version.

Women’s Power: Josephus - The Complete Works: Take care, especially in your battles, that no woman use the habit of a man, nor man the garment of a woman. This was the form of political government which was left us by Moses. Antiq. 4.843 (301). …let not the testimony of women be admitted, on account of the levity and boldness of their sex… Antiq. of the Jews, 4.8.15 (219).


According to my New Spirit Filled Life Bible: Kingdom Equipping Through the Power of the Word (NKJV) –

Women should observe a proper sense of modesty, free from vanity and worldly display, at all times, but especially in public worship. A godly woman’s attractiveness is her character, not her costly clothing. See 1 Pet. 3:3-4.

Paul exhorts women to be disciples and to maintain a conduct that would not discredit the church. The prohibition of v. 12 refers to the authoritative office of apostolic teacher of the church. It does not forbid women to educate, proclaim truth, or exhort (prophesy).

See: Acts 2:17; 18:26; 21:9; 1 Cor. 11:5; Phil. 4:3; 2 Tim. 1:5; 3:14, 15: Titus 2:3-5.

Kingdom Dynamics: v.11 =1 Tim. 6:15; 1 Cor. 9:17.

v. 12 = 1 Cor. 15:10; 1 Cor. 7:25; Col. 1:25.

Truth-In-Action: Letting the Life of the Holy Spirit Bring Faith’s Works Alive in You!

Truth > Timothy teaches growing in godliness. God’s Word instructs in godly conduct, which comes from godly attitudes in life and worship. If the heart is tuned to God, modesty and acceptable worship will result. God has defined godliness in the example of the Lord Jesus Christ, and He sent the Holy Spirit to conform us to His image.

Action > Dress with appropriate modesty. Emphasize internal beauty.


According to my Study Bible: Spirit Filled Life (NKJV) -

Paul was trying to motivate women to be true disciples of Jesus Christ and did not say that they could not teach, preach, minister, or prophesy. But, women are not to occupy the authority of a man. God appointed man as head of the family, and the man is responsible to serve his wife in love, and be in submission to God. Paul was not teaching that man, (in this case Adam) is spiritually, morally, or intellectually better than the woman. But he is her superior in God's order of things. Almighty God > Man > Woman > Children. When Eve stepped outside the umbrella of protection of being subordinate to Adam, she allowed herself to be deceived through spiritual deception.

This is very interesting, because in the last vision that I had, a (shadowy figure) was standing under an umbrella (canopy) like tree. The tree was full of small green fruit. And this fruit was glowing in the darkness under the umbrella like tree. So, it appears now that if Eve stepped outside the umbrella of protection of Adam, she placed herself "spiritually" under the umbrella (canopy) of the serpent. This would perhaps explain why Adam was allowed to be deceived too. Because Adam already knew about God's instruction. Yet, Adam allowed himself to be deceived instead of taking a firm stand and resist the serpent. I was thinking that Adam was so in love with his wife, Eve, that he simply wanted to please her. That's why he ate the fruit too. But, if Eve's actions of leaving the umbrella protection of Adam, and allowing herself to be placed under the umbrella of the serpent, the deception was sealed through Eve's simple act of not remaining under the umbrella of Adam's protection. Wow, that's great stuff. I'll have to pray about that one.


The Tree of Life, is God's umbrella (canopy) of protection. That other tree was the serpent's umbrella (canopy) of deception! This brings even more clarity to my vision.

I realize I got off the topic of discussion, but I have just had another revelation about something. And, I need to pray about it, before I discuss it further. So, this will be continued later...

~ Jonahs Sister ~

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